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Titan Series Upgrades

568 views 12 replies 4 participants last post by  Pulltypes and Hillsides  
#1 ·
Hey all. First time posting here, but looking at adding some pep to some old machines. So looking at upgrading the 6620 sidehill with a 25ft honeybee airflex, or a 620 or 625 Deere with an air reel. So any advice to getting those units to run would be greatly appreciated. Thanks y’all
 
#2 ·
Hey @Pulltypes and Hillsides, welcome to the forum! Putting a newer header like a Honeybee Airflex on a 6620 sidehill is a heck of an upgrade. What part of getting it all to work together are you most curious about—the hydraulics, the wiring, or something else? A few more details will definitely help the experts here point you in the right direction
 
#3 ·
Glad to be here, so it’s a combination of both really. I understand that the titan combines have a different Dial A Matic wire set up than the newer models such as the 9500 and 9510, the other question would be what’s the best way to plumb hydraulics to get them set up for multi point connection instead of single point, if that’s even possible, at the end of the day I bought this 6620 with all new internals, it’s got a lot of life left in it and I think I can justify doing some pricey modifications to make something work! I’m basically just seeing what kind of kits etc would be possible to make this old bird sing!
 
#6 ·
It is possible, its just not cheap. We have sold a couple kits over the years to put a 600F on a 20 series. YOu have to convert the AHHC system to work with DAM, then add controls for the Flex Pressure adjustment. Hydraulically, you put multipoint couplers back on the reel lift and reel drive hoses. NO big deal. You will need to "lock" the reel F/A in place unless you want to spend a lot of money adding an extra valve to your 6620 - I spent some considerable time looking into adding a reel f/a function to my old 7720, finally decided it just wasn't worth the hastle.

The 6620 and later 9500 types actually have similar DAM systems, they just went to a 16 pin plug instead of the 9 pin at the header. Generally the inputs from the header work the same. Except you push it down with the manual lever until the chain switch activates on the 20 series.
 
#7 ·
I did check in with lankota and they told me good luck basically. They can sell the mechanical adapter to make the head go on the feeder house. But like @Jeff-C-IL had mentioned it will need an electrical kit.

Im not sure if it would work, but I do have a hydraulic coupler splitter, where it mounts to a tractor scv and you can control electrically which hydraulics you want to send pressure to, not sure if they would be able to handle the pressure and flow of a combine though?
 
#8 ·
Combine is actually less than a tractor in most cases. I considered the splitter as well, but you would need to put that on the auger swing function. Header raise and reel lift are 1 way - pressure & release.
Lankota pretty much sells our (Headsight) electrical conversions for the DAM combines. JD also had a kit to put the DAM box back on the 600F. And a pressure gauge and switch in the cab can get the job done.
 
#9 ·
When I had talked to lankota they had mentioned that they no longer carry an adapter for the 20 series DAM, but do you think the 9500 series DAM adapter would work in the same way? I’d like to use the headsight equipment. Been very impressed with it in the past and I believe that honeybees airflex platform works based off of the headsight system. Regarding the hydraulics. That’s exactly what I was thinking. Hooking it up to the auger hydraulics seemed like it would be the most logical.
 
#10 ·
The DAM conversion for a 9500 mostly works on a 20 series. You need a 16 pin to 9 pin adapter (if the combine has not already been updated) and a different cab harness (HT9803-CAB) for the cab control.
Its a little more awkward - you hold a button on the controller and move your lever to change reel height or flex pressure.

Yes, we work with HB as well - a DAM combine conversion will essentially have the same kit as above!
 
#11 ·
Very good info. Thank you again, so it seems like it’s definitely feasible. Wish I had talked to you when I talked to headsight, they basically told me can’t be done and to forget it. Interesting you bring up the controller needing to be held when moving the reel lever. Would it be possible to wire a foot pedal to bypass needing to hold the controller button down. Maybe im over complicating a problem that doesn’t really need to be solved.
 
#12 ·
Yes, but would require your own wiring. Our in-cab controller just has a pressure bar graph and two buttons that would increase/decrease flex pressure on a 9500. We simply used those to fire the right function on 20 series. Honestly, you could just wire in a ON-OFF-ON switch to choose reel/flex function, and put a hydraulic pressure gauge for flex pressure on the head somewhere if you wanted. Flip the switch to desired function, move the lever.
The DAM AHHC interface would then be the same as a 9500, with the 16-9 pin adapter if needed. And a standard HT999LB LightBar for the cab instead of the Hydraflex controller. All stock parts.
 
#13 ·
I’ll be honest that may be the best option considering the current availability for stuff. Keep it simple stupid when it comes to some of this. Jeff I’ve gotta say you’ve been a hero on this. I’m hoping the next time I call up headsight for any questions that I can talk to you. Thanks for your time and help. Really helped to make a decision!