Been hearing rumors of several new S-series combines burning up. Does anyone know about fires in the new combines? It sounds like the exhaust temps get to 1600 degrees F during a regeneration process.
S-series fires?
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I'm not saying at all it's a Deere problem, and anybody that has ran a 10 series case ih combine should know about chaff on the engine deck and about combines running hot, a local farmer with 7010s about three years ago had a bunch of problems with fires starting in the engine compartment but i can't remember the reason for it.Just looks really sad and scary to see a machine go up like that, any machine will go up, and Deere are not the only combine running "HOT" emmissions these days, all comes down to the guy running it to keep it blown down each day, we have had the "S" machine as a proto for the last 4 years and at present we have a Tier 4 machine with adblue, we have NEVER had any fire issues. Claas have now gone the adblue route with the new 780 with a Merc engine.
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YES it VERY VERY Important to keep a combine/cotton stripper / baler blown down every day, its good work practice, I even blow my baler off when doing long moves down the road, point was proven the the other night when a rear tyre blow out on the road at night and until I noticed the smoke in my rear view from a car lighting it up, if the baler was not clean, it would have been a fire ball, it took the brake line off and oil all over the shop aswell. hot engines, drive lines are not a good mix. keep them blown down daily, plus it makes you check the machine for other faults daily
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I tried to burn up a 2388 three times in 8 days cutting lentils, fortunately I wasn't trying very hard. We should be more careful about blowing them off daily in lentils at least but blowing them off regularly is never a bad idea.
In the wrong conditions any colour will burn.
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two years ago this fall our neighbors whole compound was almost burned down after a brush fire dropped ambers into their cornstalks from a mile away. In no time there were 7 big 8 wheel units in their ~200 acre field. **** was wild.Those were my thoughts as well...but then I would imagine they did try
What does surprise me even more so, is since that combine was marked as #7, I'm guessing this is a fairly large operation and in the middle of some open looking country...that they didn't keep a tractor and disc close by in case of that kind of situation
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throw a match in a bucket of diesel and it will go out.Fj there was a recent thread with burning red machine. Lots of brands go up but as they say misery loves company. Locally most machines are red green or silver and I've seen them all on fire or burned out. Never heard of a case going up because of chaff build up though. We smoked a 1480 once due to a fuel leak, who would have thought that was flamable
throw a match in a bucket of straw, instant fire.
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Throw a match in a bucket of diesel that has been heated to a minimum of 144 degrees F, depending on diesel grade [126 and 205F].
At that flash point temperature [still requiring ignition source] there is enough vapour for flame to sustain itself, causing more heat, and if more fuel is available to keep heating, the vicious circle gets real hot and burn, burn, burn. Any accumulated dry or fuel soaked straw nearby? Inferno!
At that flash point temperature [still requiring ignition source] there is enough vapour for flame to sustain itself, causing more heat, and if more fuel is available to keep heating, the vicious circle gets real hot and burn, burn, burn. Any accumulated dry or fuel soaked straw nearby? Inferno!
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They used up 3 fire extinguishers to no avail.The pictures were taken from the guy in the grain cart.
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That makes sense, everything appears different in pictures of course, usually cleaner and less extreme. I hear so many people say "if it started burning I would walk away, who wants to run rebuilt equipment when the insurance company will buy you a new one)...
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we have 2 yellow headers and thy get blown down everyday in wheat and barley but in chickpeas they can get blown down 2 or 3 times a day. the insurance companies are cracking down on machinery fires here in aus. we were harvesting last year in chickpeas and had to stop and go at night due to the fact that we had 7 fires in 3 hours and the 2 red headers in the same field as us (7000 series) had 1 completly burnt and the other damaged to the point they couldnt harvest for a week.
the insurance company did a search and asked us if anyone had photos of the fire and a backpacker said yes, this caused a lot of grief for the owner as it showed the fire extinguisher still on the machine and not used after the fire. the owner had taken it off before the agent got there. still fighting with them know and looking like he will loose. just a warning thats all.
the insurance company did a search and asked us if anyone had photos of the fire and a backpacker said yes, this caused a lot of grief for the owner as it showed the fire extinguisher still on the machine and not used after the fire. the owner had taken it off before the agent got there. still fighting with them know and looking like he will loose. just a warning thats all.
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which area was that?
Leaf blowers are a great item for stopping machinery fires. If you force enough air on a flame the fuel air ratio will get too low to sustain a flame and the air also cools out the heated area. I have personally assisted in putting out probabaly around 100 fires on combines from Sunflower dust. They're simple to put out as long as no wheat chaff or anything that can hold a flame was left on the machine. Sunflower dust just glows like a cigarette ember, but it will sure light up wiring and hoses given the chance.
If you have a fire, the secret is to blow away all of the fuel BEFORE you tackle the fire. Then you can just blow the burning stuff out or off of the machine. Don't open up any doors that would let you blow embers inside the separator and be careful not to blow anything through the chaffer. Fire inside usually needs water and lots of time.
We lost one machine in the morning. We missed some embers touching the plastic fuel tank.
I miss those silly flowers, and my lifelong friend that kept everyone fired up about growing them. He learned his life would be short and died too young.
If you have a fire, the secret is to blow away all of the fuel BEFORE you tackle the fire. Then you can just blow the burning stuff out or off of the machine. Don't open up any doors that would let you blow embers inside the separator and be careful not to blow anything through the chaffer. Fire inside usually needs water and lots of time.
We lost one machine in the morning. We missed some embers touching the plastic fuel tank.
I miss those silly flowers, and my lifelong friend that kept everyone fired up about growing them. He learned his life would be short and died too young.
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I've been told by local green mechs that if yer S series combine sits for awhile you want to check the entire outside of the exhaust assembly to be sure that a sparrow or other small bird hasn't built a nest in there. They've seen it happen where it'll start smoking after start up from the burning nest material.
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