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Case 8230 Canola settings in dry conditions

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#1 ·
We’ve been in a drought this year and the canola is horrendously dry. The canola seems to be busting up too much but if I play with the settings to fix the trashy sample, I end up throwing over like crazy (3bu are going out the back). Has anyone had any luck setting their Case 8230 for canola in dry conditions and still had a fairly decent sample?

For reference:
Rotor - 410
Concave - 35
Top sieve - 12
Bottom Sieve - 2
Fan - 730

These settings are the only way I’ve been able to keep my sieve loss somewhat green, but it’s still way too high.
I’ve also tried varying speed from 3.5 to 5 mph. It doesn’t seem to make too much of a difference.
 
#2 ·
How dry is horrendously dry?

Our harvest conditions are almost always on the dry side for canola harvest. Grain moisture is usually under 6%.

I set my rotor and concave clearance to evenly load the sieves. (Slowing the rotor and/or closing the concaves shifts material right, speeding up the rotor and/or opening the concaves shifts material left). The only way to really check this is to do kill-stalls.

I think I was running around 550 RPM and 21 mm clearance.

Your fan speed is about what I run, seems like your lower sieve is too tight though, I think I set mine to 6-8. Top sieve 12-14.

One thing that helps with extra dry canola is not threshing it any more than you have to. I run slotted concaves in the #1 position, left and right, to let the already threshed material get out of the rotor cage. I'll often put cover plates over the #4 modules to keep excess material off the sieves.
 
#3 ·
I feel like 400 rpm is too slow on the rotor

Our canola was pretty dry this year, 6-7% moisture. Automation had the cylinder running as fast as 700 sometimes, vanes in slow position. Concaves were at 10mm. No cracking. This was Invigor pod shatter stuff, so kind of hard threshing.

Fan was 700, top sieve was about 11 or 12, bottom was about 8 and sample was decent.

How fast are you going? We just put along in canola. The slower you go the less the rotor throws out. But there are diminished returns going 1 mph.
 
#11 ·
Case 9250

Upper sieve 10/11
Bottom sieve 5/6
Presieve 3
Rotor 750
Concave 20
Fan 750 (can’t remember on this one.. could try low
Ease or medium threshing (vanes medium or open)

each day is different though! One day everything is dialed in and next it needs to be adjusted a bit.

although maybe the smaller the crop you need to bring rotor down more?
Sorry no expert but these setting for average to good crop have done really well for us if sieves calibrated.

speed is really important. Going too fast is never good obviously

hope it works out for you and doesn’t chip up too much
 
#14 ·
Brand new to the 8230 this year, but some dry straight-cut L340 albeit tougher stalks in places, 5-8% seed:
Concave: 15-20
Rotor: 500-600
Fan: 600
Top sieve: 8
Bottom sieve: 10
Pre sieve: 1/ closed as it can be.
Spreaders 500

We added the top sieve curtains between wheat and canola so not sure whether that helped or not. Also removed 4 straight bars from rotor and replaced with spiked rasp bars. SW,SW,LW,LW. Pretty decent average loss of 0.5bu give or take across the width. The drier conditions got during the day the more I'd open the sieves, slow rotor, open concave, didn't seem to hurt sample and losses stayed low. 40ft header somewhere around 650bu/hr which seemed a good pace for the grain cart.
 
#16 ·
Vegetatively, this season offers a vastly different plant structure on canola than past years.
The seed to stalk ratio should(?) be much higher and perhaps larger seed and/or more seed per pod?
Perhaps raise t/hr at suitable loss levels?
Perhaps raise t/hr at suitable loss levels?
Going to be interesting.
 
#17 ·
Vegetatively, this season offers a vastly different plant structure on canola than past years.
The seed to stalk ratio should(?) be much higher and perhaps larger seed and/or more seed per pod?
Perhaps raise t/hr at suitable loss levels?
Going to be interesting.
Swaths around here are basically all pods. Not much for tall stalks this year in my area. Yielding decent but 2 weeks of hot weather is making the stems super brittle. Hard to keep the tank clean because it all shatters in the feeder house. On the plus side even lumpy spots in the swath are going through like butter.